how to make Horizon feel more like FM4

apparently this basically turns off the hidden STM, making the cars feel more like FM4




from a thread on FM.net

"Or at least minimize it. I read about this on gamespot, and I was certainly skeptical at first, but it really does seem to work!
What
you do is change the difficulty to expert (maybe anything but easy-
I'll get to that later), then just make the individual assists and
settings how you want them. This seems to remove the hidden STM assist,
which can really be intrusive and annoying.
If you want to test
out the difference, just set the difficulty to expert (you can turn off
the clutch if you need), find a long, wide stretch of highway, and in
third gear sway left and right to drift on alternating sides
(Choku-Dori, for the drifting literate). You should be able to maintain
speed and continue indefinitely. Now set the difficulty to easy, then
change all of the individual assists and settings to what they were
previously. Try to Choku-Dori at the same speed and in the same gear,
and you'll find that it's impossible to keep enough speed. This is due
to the hidden STM assist that seems to be turned by the "Easy"
difficulty, which the game starts you with. If you're like many people,
you didn't bother switching the difficulty level before customizing the
assists and options to how you wanted them.
I've experimented
with the difficulties between "Easy" and "Expert", but if they have STM
enabled it is nowhere near as intrusive. They may have been trying out a
multiple setting STM like they use on GT5, with all but "Easy" using
milder STM and perhaps "Expert" using none, but that's just speculation.
Regardless, this trick makes the FH demo feel much closer to FM4,
although it still doesn't seem to be quite the same (especially the
rumble and force feedback!) Hopefully an STM option will exist in the
full game, but until then this trick can make the game much more
satisfying."

I changed the difficulty to medium and the controller settings to match what I have in Forza 4. It's not exactly the same but it was pretty good. Still felt "floaty" though. I've noticed the tires don't squeal as much in Horizon either.

wow, thats interesting. I should try it because its certainly no fun when I can't slide around on the rally track in the evo...

I just tried this but I'm not sure if anything was different. It's possible that it was different but I didn't feel it because of the way I have my wheel setup.

xraydash wrote:I changed the difficulty to medium and the controller settings to match what I have in Forza 4. It's not exactly the same but it was pretty good. Still felt "floaty" though. I've noticed the tires don't squeal as much in Horizon either.

what they were saying was change it to expert, then change the individual assists around to what you want them. they think putting it on expert turns stability off

i just did a compare and contrast and i can vouch for this: not only can you feel the difference in the handling but you can actually see a difference in the RPMs at certain angles and speeds. with the hidden stability on, during slides the RPMs drop, as if trac is kicking in, but with the hidden stability off you just keep spinning.

I don't understand why STM isn't just a separate setting like in FM4.

shinnsoon wrote:I don't understand why STM isn't just a separate setting like in FM4.

This is just plain stupid... Let's hope that STM and TCM are controllable options in the release version and not have to do this "trick". Although, it is a GREAT find, so thank you. I've been spending time re-tuning a lot of my favorite cars in FM4, so I haven't run back through the FH demo. I'm not sure if I will either. I'm probably just going to wait until next week and play the full game...

Well, I'm not tempted to go back to the demo. But if you're saying that this puts things back to where it is in FM, then I'm all for it.

Well, just a little over a week to go. Just a wait and see for me now.