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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:28 pm

This is more of a place holder...the idea isn't 'final' so I'm going to use this to flesh some thoughts out. Would like to try a one off race of this, and if the one off works, maybe make this a monthly series.

So..let's talk SuperGT...this is another R-Series, but they are bred racecars, which I don't think we have done.

Cars (thanks Beef for pulling this)
#6 lexus SC430
#25 lexus SC430
#1 lexus SC430
#6 toyota supra (I don't know where I got 2 from in my last post)
#12 nissan skyline
#23 nissan GTR
#3 nissan GTR
#24 nissan GTR
#12 nissan GTR
#18 Honda Takata Dome NSX

Tracks
Suzuka (obviously)
Indianopolis
Nurburging
Motegi

Something I had tossed out there in another thread was the idea that everyone would have to turn ONE clean lap. This is challenged by the drafting piece. I think I have a way around this, by using an idea that someone had mentioned a while ago (Cash I think)....two race format. This is becoming increasingly used in many series. WTCC/BTCC use it, ORR has the caution lap halfway through to regroup everyone...and I think in NASCAR, in the all star race, they do something similar.

Races are typically 15'ish laps, so thinking we break this down to 2 8 lap races. In one of the two 'sessions' you have to have a clean lap.

Race one: Ghosts (so no drafting) this is your BEST chance to turn a clean lap.
Race two: Default Collision, Cosmetic damage ..BUT...I need to see if you can invert field in game lobby. So if you run fast in race one, you go to back in race 2. Your 'score' is a total of both times.

In real SuperGT they use weight penalties to 'even out' the field, pretty sure we can't do that here, so I had another thought...time rewards...
-if you turn your one clean lap in one of the two races, your times are added, and that is your score
-if you don't turn a clean lap in either session, +60 sec to your time
-if you turn a clean lap in BOTH session -30 sec from your time

...will get back to this, have to go to meeting now.


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Re: Possible Super GT

Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:56 pm

I'm in. I think I will be racing a nissan

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Post by BiggLou55 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:02 pm

You talking R3 GT cars or Supergars GT style (like June)?

If it's an extension of June, I might have to sit this one out.... If it's GT cars, I might be in! Very Happy

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:11 pm

BiggLou55 wrote:You talking R3 GT cars or Supergars GT style (like June)?

If it's an extension of June, I might have to sit this one out.... If it's GT cars, I might be in! Very Happy
I think its the cars that are built for just racing. lke the R2 class nissan GTR's and the #2 supra

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:15 pm

car list (from what it sounds like):

#6 lexus SC430
#25 lexus SC430
#1 lexus SC430
#6 toyota supra (I don't know where I got 2 from in my last post)
#12 nissan skyline
#32 nissan R390GT1
#23 nissan GTR
#3 nissan GTR
#24 nissan GTR
#12 nissan GTR

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Post by marmuttlebow on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:28 pm

No Hon-duh in that list?

I'll give it a go. What the hell, why not?
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Re: Possible Super GT

Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:49 pm

beefsupreme42 wrote:car list (from what it sounds like):

#6 lexus SC430
#25 lexus SC430
#1 lexus SC430
#6 toyota supra (I don't know where I got 2 from in my last post)
#12 nissan skyline
#32 nissan R390GT1
#23 nissan GTR
#3 nissan GTR
#24 nissan GTR
#12 nissan GTR

That's them Beef, plus there is the #18 Takata Dome NSX. PERSONALLY, I like driving these cars, yes, they are R3, but because they are real Racecars, I think they are more fun.
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Post by Vlagra DUH on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:51 pm

I what pi for the cars?

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Post by marmuttlebow on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:51 pm

What I always found funny is when I was working in automotive, I had to deal with these companies (Takata, Denso, etc). And then I swore off driving those cars because some of them were horrendous vendors.
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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:53 pm

Viagra DUH wrote:I what pi for the cars?

I haven't got there yet...have to do some testing.
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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:33 pm

I thought they were R2...

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:35 pm

oh, I forgot there is also the genesis coupe

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Post by BiggLou55 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:38 pm

beefsupreme42 wrote:oh, I forgot there is also the genesis coupe

that this sucks and there is no way it will be any good at R3 or R2.... I did some testing for the July series with it, and I wasn't too impressed... It will get wiped by the others!

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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:43 pm

BiggLou55 wrote:
beefsupreme42 wrote:oh, I forgot there is also the genesis coupe

that this sucks and there is no way it will be any good at R3 or R2.... I did some testing for the July series with it, and I wasn't too impressed... It will get wiped by the others!

Try the Honda, or the Nissan...even the Toyota is nice. The Genesis is not 'the same' as the others. The Honda is slick imo
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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:47 pm

The good thing is that they are all almost exactly the same in every category. all of the starting PIs are between R2-855 and R2-859

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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:03 pm

...could be fun to leave them bone stock....but you gotta stick with one car for whole series
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Post by Vlagra DUH on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:13 pm

Well what about the vets and bmws and others.

And if we can it at R2-850 can we upgrade to 850 and such?

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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:17 pm

Viagra DUH wrote:Well what about the vets and bmws and others.

And if we can it at R2-850 can we upgrade to 850 and such?

Right now I'm just thinking about the cars that Beef outlined (and the Honda) I know Corvette is foray'ing into SuperGT, but I would like to use the 'pure' SGT cars that are in game already.
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Post by Markve91 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:04 pm

Sounds like fun...I love that Takata Honda, I've been using it for a ton of my R2 class races in the event list. Pretty fun to turn off the HUD and race in cockpit view in that thing!
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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:02 pm

right now I have the honda and a nissan, so I will see which one I like better. also, I made a mistake by posting the R390GT1, its not superGT body style...

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:04 pm

is theis a plan for a series race or just a club series to run in our spare time?

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Post by swviper on Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:02 pm

Well, I was thinking about a 1 off at first, just to see how the format goes. I THINK it will work, and I think like when we did the Mugen Spec series with drag tires, this adds an element of 'thinking' about what you're doing....'Did I get my clean lap in? can I get one in each session?

I have to do some poking around with the lobby setup, to see how else I can make race 2 interesting, ie: reverse field

I'll firm up the actuals, and update OP...maybe we can squeeze this one in July if timing works out.
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Post by Vlagra DUH on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:58 am

Reverse track? Same track just backwards for race 2.

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:36 am

any idea when we will start this, or is it still an idea in the making?

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Post by beefsupreme42 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:19 pm

I have pictures of the car I am going to use:







the japanese writing on the car translates to up 2 speed customs, so if anybody wants it I will send it to you

swviper, I was thinking about combining this with the multi-club team race idea. do yo think it would be a good idea?

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